Labor Assists

Assalamu Aleikum wa Rahmatullah

Alhamdulillah, there have been a lot of babies being born here in ash-Shihr in the last few months- and in Damaaj, my second little grandbaby was born, Yasmeen, alhamdulilaah, may Allaah make them all righteous and guide them on His straight path.

I thought it might be a good time to begin a discussion on labor and birthing- you can share birth stories or advice or experiences you have had in this area, insh'Allaah.

A few of the tips that the midwives here give:

When the baby is due or past due, take a spoon of castor oil once or twice a day

Same thing- only take a spoon of good quality honey two or three times a day

Dates- before and after the birth

Honey after the birth, to help fight infection and bring in good milk

black seed and fennel for milk production

Alhamdulillah, I have used some of these myself. I also recommend lots of exercise and walking throughout the pregnancy, if you are in good health and are not having any problems with the pregnancy. This has to be offset, of course, with making sure you get a lot of rest and eat VERY well, mash'Allaah. I also make a tea for the month before and then after the pregnance, it contains red raspberry leaf, alfalfa, nettle, oatstraw, rosehips, and fennel. One sister drank three cups and was on her way to the hospital to have her baby after that, mash'Allaah!! Of course it doesn't work that way for everyone. It is good for after the birth for the uterus, milk, and the Umm's state of mind, mash'Allaah, and can even help calm baby.

For after the birth bleeding, I do a tea of yarrow and Shepherd's Purse- BITTER!! But effective. Take small amounts frequently, up to a total amount of three cups a day.

Also, using a belly band- this is done in many traditional cultures around the world, along with uterine massage. The band helps the uterus regain its shape and position, alhamdulillah.

Just some ideas off of the top of my head. Anyone have anything to add, insh'Allaah??

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nurah11

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I recently had my first baby. Alhamduillah. and I also used the castor oil to "induce" my labor because I was nine days over due. However, whenever I tell my birth story, I like to begin that everything happens to will of Allaah. I actually took the wrong amount of castor desire for the inducement to work also that night, I made a pleading dua for Allaah to send me into labor and Allaah did...in my opinion. Will I try castor oil again...I don't think I will.
Umm Mujaahid

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Alhamdulillah, may Allaah make your baby righteous, and a blessing for you and your husband, Ameen.

You're right, alhamdulillah, about it being in the hands of Allaah. I find that many people get impatient when their "official" due date passes- we forget that this is from the aspects of the unseen, and only Allaah knows when that baby will be born, mash'Allaah. I think sometimes the "tricks" to get labor started seem to work simply because the mother feels like she is at least doing something, mash'Allaah. It is also good to remember, though, that Allaah has given us herbs and such that do benefit us in various ways- they simply do so through His Will.

Concerning our impatience to get our babies born- Imaam Maalik is authentically reported to have related that his mother was pregnant with him for three years!!

Asiyyah Bint Dawud

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I really CAN'T add much because I've never had the experience of giving birth, maashaaAllaah. But for my sister's second son, she allowed me to attend her labor and delivery as a "doula". Weird, because I was cramming in as much study as possible (on the topic), the two months I had to prepare before the baby's due date, and in the end I was at her bedside balling. MaashaaAllaah-- I haven't volunteered again yet. 
After pregnancy though, my sister gets a lot of swelling in her feet and legs. Her sister in-law, who is from Cameroon, said that as a custom the women in her country do a soak; hot water with some herbal somethingorother to reduce the swelling. So we do that for my sis, throwing in peppermint leaves, and almond oil, and within a month or so, her swelling is barely noticeble, maashaaAllaah.
Umm Mujaahid, when you mentioned about the honey, did you mean for the mother or the baby? I had read that giving the baby honey can result in some form of food poisoning, errr I think botulisomething... for babies under one year. Perhaps there is more specifications concerning the type of honey...? Allaahu'A'lam.
 
Baarakallaahu feeki
 
Umm Mujaahid

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Assalamu Aleikum wa Rahmatullah

So funny- I love the image of you by your sister's bedside being so "helpful"! (SMILE)

The great honey debate. It is recommended that you not give honey to babies under the age of two- some people say one- year old. I was talking about the mother. That being said, though, I personally use it (good quality, pure honey, of course)  for the babies as well, just like I still would use comfrey internally except under certain conditions. I don't recommend it to others, though, mash'Allaah, especially if they are not comfortable with it.

Foot soaks are great for pregnant women as well as those who have recently given birth. As for the herbs to use, there are so many different nice combinations. Michael Tierra, a well-known herbalist, says that when people ask him what herb to use for something, he says, "Any herb." This reminded me of what Ibn Qayyim says about belief in the remedy being a big part of the remedy being effective- or more specifically, belief that Allaah will assist the one who using the herb. Alhamdulillah- it happens so often that people nowadays come up with something that the Muslims knew and believed all along!!

Asiyyah Bint Dawud

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I know! When I come across websites with information about all of the "new" discoveries scientists, herbalists, botanists, (and every other "ist" one can think of), found out about the benefits of blackseed, I think to myself "didn't we already know that---about 2000 yrs ago??" I mean,seriously,  weren't we told by our beloved prophet Muhammad sallallaahu'alaihi wasallam to “Use this Black Seed regularly, because it is a cure for every disease, except death"? One website openly admitted that "the islamic prophet Muhammad recommended the use of it (blackseed) 1400 years ago.." After reading that I was just like, "well, don't you seem pretty dense...." 

'Alaa kulli haal, I hope you don't find this a drag when I ask: how can one determine "good quality, pure honey"? Are there specific qualities that should be looked for in a healthy hive? Or should the criteria be based solely on the manufacturers? Should we shoot only for raw honey, or is filtered best to none?

Baarakallaahu feeki

 

                                     

 

Umm Mujaahid

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One of the most important things when looking for honey is to see if you can find any locally made, especially when treating allergies. Manuka honey is also very good, as is the honey from Yemen! Look for raw, unprocessed honey, and buy it from a reliable source. Basically, you don't want the little honey bear jars from the grocery store.

That being said, I do use it for the children, but again, you have to use caution and do your own research before deciding what's best for you, insh'Allaah.

Asiyyah Bint Dawud

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I guess I'm talking for my sis again but.... she had done an "in -the-water-labor". She did some research of course---so i did too, kinda. In a nut shell, laboring in the water takes a tremendous amount of pressure off of the woman's abdomen, and can speed up second stage labor due to the warm water softening the vagina. Of course an immense drop in pain intensity, so a lift in father's (and whoeverelse is there) spirits. Again, I'm speaking from lack of experience, so i can imagine this post sounding a bit flat, maashaaAllaah.  But the process is indeed--intriguing. 'Alaa kulli haal, please ask you physician or therapist before diving in! 
Umm Mujaahid

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I have found that water- in a bath or in a shower- during labor can provide some relief, insh'Allaah, for some people. As for the water birth, I believe that is usually done to ease the baby's entrance into the world- but I figure they have to come out of the water eventually, so you're delaying the inevitable, mash'Allaah.

If you are thinking of doing it, definitely read up and talk to your labor assistants about it, and Allaah knows best

Ummu Khadijah

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Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah Hope y'all don't mind if I add a few comments (smile).  On the castor oil - I didnt take that on my fourth but I tried some on my fifth.  It did give me contractions for a while but then they stopped (no labor alhamdulillah).  I decided I wasnt going to use it again because 1.It tastes so unpleasant and 2.It made my stomache terribly upset (and then no labor to boot).  With my 4th child I was seeing Nurse Midwives here (at a free standing birth center) and the head nurse midwife recommended at the time that I take castor oil (baby was about 10 days past their predicted date).  But I didnt do that because she made it sound shirky somehow - I didnt want to take it make her think that using it was good luck or something.  I did make a lot of dua.  What really worked was when I was at the brith center that day, two different midwives separated the membrane (I think it was the same day...or maybe it was within a few days of each other, I dont remember).  Anyway, after the last separation, I started to feel the contractions regularly and I delivered the next day (Sat) alhamdulillah.  I really enjoyed the experience with them alhamdulillah. Good quality honey - I will see if I can locate that in shaa Allah next time I am in Kroger (seriously, they might actually have some - they do even have a natural foods section).  But I saw something gross maybe about a year ago in the dollar store.  I saw a honey bear (smaller than in the grocery) and thought - Oh great!  The dollar store is selling honey! Upon closer inspection though, the bear said : HONEY FLAVORED SYRUP  EWWWWWWWWWW. Also I have a question regarding black seed.  Several friends have told me that I should not take blackseed during pregnancy because it is an abortative agent.  Is this correct?  
Umm Mujaahid

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I agree with you completely on the castor oil- YUCK there's a reason why it was considered such a horrible medicine by children with tummy aches way back when. And the slime issue...ew. But you know how it goes, sometimes we feel like we have to be trying SOMETHING anyway, mash'Allaah. I wouldn't recommend it, but I do let people know that it works for others. Believe it or not they sell the honey flavored sugar syrup here as well! Mash'Allaah. Here people test it before they buy it by putting the honey in a spoon and starting it on fire- if it flames, it has a high sugar content. One should be cautious taking black seed when pregnant, it can induce labor. I find that in reasonable quantities after the first three months, there is no problem, mash'Allaah. And Allaah knows best.
UmmAbdillaah

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Alhamdulillaah, I planned to have a water birth, but Qadr Allaah wa maashaa'a  fa'al, I ended up only using water during labor.  Alhamdulillaah, I really believe that it helped to decrease the pain and the frequency of my contractions but still produce the needed results-delivery!!!! The midwife broke my water when I was about 5 cm and then let me get into the jacuzzi when I was about 6cm.  Alhamdulillaah, it really soothed my pain, although, during the most intense part, I still needed my husband to massage my back while I was in the water.  I was in labor since about 7:30 the night before, before coming to the hospital, but there was nothing intense until the midwife broke my water.  I started to feel the urge to push while I was in the water but both my husband and I thought I would have a lot more time until I delivered (judging from my previous 2 labors and how long they were and also how much more frequent and painful the contractions in my previous labors were during transition).  The midwife told me to push if I felt like it, but I was too scared that I wasn't fully dilated and I didn't want to completely tear myself apart and I also have this phobia from my first child when I pushed about 9 times and every time I pushed everyone was telling me "just one more push"  and it actually did burn like fire pushing him out (I say that b/c while I was pregnant I read this description of delivery and I found it unbelievable-basically not me!  I guess the last laugh was on me) although with the 2nd child I pushed two times and he popped right out. Long story short-so I didn't want to push without being checked, she wasn't able to check me in the water b/c I felt too uncomfortable so I had to get out, when I got out and she checked me it was time to push.  So, that's the reason why I didn't have a water birth!  I did make a lot of du'a that I would have an easy labor and delivery and alhamdulillaah, it seemed so much shorter and was definitely a lot smoother than the last two.  But I really think Allaah gives every woman different experiences.  I've read a lot of birth stories and every woman is different.  Some birth naturally without water and it's pretty much short and painless, others birth naturally with water and still have a lot of pain.  With the first pregnancy I believed that I would have a fast and easy labor and delivery b/c I was "different" from other women and I have a "strong tolerance for pain" (I still laugh at myself over that). With the second labor, I believed I would have a fast and easy labor and delivery because my mother's second labor and delivery (who was me) was fast and easy (smile).  With the third, I hoped it would be easier b/c my pregnancy was easier, but I alo made a lot of du'a.  I made du'a with all of them and Allaah gave me what was best with all three.  With the first, the ease was getting into the water at transition and feeling all of my pain go away, with the second baby, it was having a short and painless delivery after an induced labor with no epidural, with the third baby, it was having the experience of the previous two to know what I wanted, the ease of water and an easy delivery, walhamdulillaah.
UmmAbdillaah

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Alhamdulillaah, I planned to have a water birth, but Qadr Allaah wa maashaa'a  fa'al, I ended up only using water during labor.  Alhamdulillaah, I really believe that it helped to decrease the pain and the frequency of my contractions but still produce the needed results-delivery!!!! The midwife broke my water when I was about 5 cm and then let me get into the jacuzzi when I was about 6cm.  Alhamdulillaah, it really soothed my pain, although, during the most intense part, I still needed my husband to massage my back while I was in the water.  I was in labor since about 7:30 the night before, before coming to the hospital, but there was nothing intense until the midwife broke my water.  I started to feel the urge to push while I was in the water but both my husband and I thought I would have a lot more time until I delivered (judging from my previous 2 labors and how long they were and also how much more frequent and painful the contractions in my previous labors were during transition).  The midwife told me to push if I felt like it, but I was too scared that I wasn't fully dilated and I didn't want to completely tear myself apart and I also have this phobia from my first child when I pushed about 9 times and every time I pushed everyone was telling me "just one more push"  and it actually did burn like fire pushing him out (I say that b/c while I was pregnant I read this description of delivery and I found it unbelievable-basically not me!  I guess the last laugh was on me) although with the 2nd child I pushed two times and he popped right out. Long story short-so I didn't want to push without being checked, she wasn't able to check me in the water b/c I felt too uncomfortable so I had to get out, when I got out and she checked me it was time to push.  So, that's the reason why I didn't have a water birth!  I did make a lot of du'a that I would have an easy labor and delivery and alhamdulillaah, it seemed so much shorter and was definitely a lot smoother than the last two.  But I really think Allaah gives every woman different experiences.  I've read a lot of birth stories and every woman is different.  Some birth naturally without water and it's pretty much short and painless, others birth naturally with water and still have a lot of pain.  With the first pregnancy I believed that I would have a fast and easy labor and delivery b/c I was "different" from other women and I have a "strong tolerance for pain" (I still laugh at myself over that). With the second labor, I believed I would have a fast and easy labor and delivery because my mother's second labor and delivery (who was me) was fast and easy (smile).  With the third, I hoped it would be easier b/c my pregnancy was easier, but I alo made a lot of du'a.  I made du'a with all of them and Allaah gave me what was best with all three.  With the first, the ease was getting into the water at transition and feeling all of my pain go away.   With the second baby, it was having a short and painless delivery after an induced labor with no epidural.  With the third baby, it was having the experience of the previous two to know what I wanted, the ease of water and an easy delivery, walhamdulillaah.
UmmAbdillaah

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AsSalaamu'alaykum wa Rahmaatullaahi wa Barkaatuh, Alhamdulillaah, also I must really recommend walking.  One, it's exercising during pregnancy and two, you really are doing something beithnillaah !  And you can actually feel yourself doing something, alhamdulillaah!  I actually felt the baby moving down while I walked and I felt myself opening up.  Walking the stairs or a hill during the last part of your preganancy is to me, the best way to help your labor get going Inshaa'Allaah. I did try eating different food items that are said to induce labor with my second and third pregnancies and when I tried spicy foods they would spike my contractions for a little while but didn't actually start labor.  Also, there's the whole problem where you never know exactly how much of a certain food you should eat before labor may start...But  I walked the stairs a number of times with my last labor in the early evening and it helped the contractions continue and  get stronger beithnillaah.  Alhamdulillaah, by that night, I was ready to go to the hospital!  WAlllaahu'Aalim, everyone is different. By the way, I love hearing birth stories, is it okay, if we share birth stories to learn from others' experiences?
Umm Mujaahid

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I agree with this- walking often makes a huge difference, mash'Allaah.

Yes, it's fine to share the labor stories, insh'Allaah.

UmmAbdillaah

Weight loss

  AsSalaamu'alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuh                                             Can anyone suggest some ways to lose weight after a baby that has worked for them?  There's so much out there, that sometimes it's really hard to decide. I'm really trying to find a weight loss method that fits me or can be personalized to fit me.  I have three children who are all less than a year and a half apart.   Walhamdulillaah, I enjoy having babies this close in age but the trade off for me has been gaining weight and not having as much time to lose it before I get pregnant again.   Reading the book “My Home, My Path” and the fataawa encouraging us to have many children, has strengthened my resolve to continue to have as many children as I can and I’d like them to be close in age (I really love new babies, smile) but  I'm trying to be at a healthy weight before I get pregnant again. I usually gain about 35 pounds during a pregnancy and I usually drop about 15 pounds right after thebaby is born.  So that leaves about  20 pounds to lose before I get pregnant again InshaaAllaaah....I'm the type of person who does not like to go on diets, I believe that if I eat moderately and exercise moderately I should be fine.  I try not to regularly eatfoods that are high in sugar, salt or fatty content, butI do eat junk food from time to time.  I have tried cutting out rice and bread  or junk food from my diet but I find I always go back to it and then I splurge.  Another issue is fitting in the exercise with the three children. Then there are all my stipulations…I don't really like exercise videos, they bore me after awhile, and it's no fun without a partner.  I don't own any exercise equipment.  Right now to help with weight loss; I breastfeed, I am drinking a lot of water and I like walking.  But in the area I live, its hard for me to regularly go walking b/c we don't have a back yard.  Also, I don't go outside without my husband and he leaves outearly for work and the time that he comes home from work varies.  Not to mention winter is coming and when it's really cold and it's snowing, its hard to go walking on a regular basis.  And after reading the book "My Home, My Path" the scholars emphasized only leaving the home for necessity and I'm not sure it is islamically correct for Muslim women to leave their homes for the purpose of exercise and go out to parks where there are men to fulfill this purpose.  On top of all of that, living in the west as a covered Muslim woman, it’s hard to feel comfortable walking out in the park anyway. If anyone has any experience with this kind of situation (three little children and a mother in need of exercise, with stipulations and the time to do it) and if there are any herbal supplements or foods or any other methods that helpswith weight loss and is safe while breastfeeding let me know exactly how you do it. JazaakunnAllaahukhayran, Umm Abdillaah
Umm Mujaahid

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Alhamdulillah...if there were easy herbal ways to lose weight there wouldn't be so many overweight people in the world (SMILE). The best way is to eat moderately and in a healthy manner, and to exercise consistently, in my opinion, mash'Allaah. I have exercised regularly since I was 14 years old, so it is simply a part of my life, alhamdulillah. I don't have any equipment, don't use exercise videos (which most scholars say are impermissible for various reasons) and don't go to the gym. I do have a set of hand weights and a jump rope. I do about an hour a day, with stretching, aerobics, and weight training all included, alhamdulillah. Walking is great as well- my husband and I go for a walk every day when possible, alhamdulillah.

UmmAbdillaah

Vaccines

AsSalaamu'alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuh, Alhamdulillaah I decided not to vaccinate my children after speaking with a couple of friends who did not vaccinate their children and after reading "The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears.  Alhamdulillaah, after understanding:  1. the quantity of aluminum in children vaccines (that even the FDA does not uphold giving in 1 dosage to adults) 2.  the controversy over whether or not vaccines can cause autism in some babies 3. realizing that we don't know which children will have a negative reaction to vaccination 4. learning about herd immunity 5. understanding some vaccines are useless after the infant stage  6. some vaccines are for diseases that are no longer present in the U.S. 7. feeling that breastfeeding passes on alot of the mothers' immunities to the child  8. seeing real children who are not vaccinated and are leading normal, healthy lives and  9. as an extra safe guard deciding to homeschool to in part, protect my children from too much exposure to public diseases. I would definitely vaccinate if I were traveling to another country, but alhamdulillaah, thus far my three little ones are doing just fine.  But I would love to know if anyone in this group decided not to vaccinate and if so, their reasons and results with their children, especially if anyone has older children who are unvaccinated.  Sometimes I just feel the need for extra information to fortify me in my decision.  And if there are any other preventative measures that anyonelse takes with their children who are unvaccinated, herbal or otherwise, please let me know. JazaakunnAllaahukhayran Your sister, Umm Abdillaah  
Umm Mujaahid

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Alhamdulillah, and may His praise and salutations be upon His final messenger and prophet, Muhammad.

Mash'Allaah, this is a very important issue, and I am willing to allow discussion of it here. However, I DO want to point out that many of the major scholars, including Sheikh Bin Baaz, may Allaah have mercy upon him, have issued rulings saying that vaccinations are permissible for a number of reasons. So, let's start with that as the baseline, and then we can go on to discuss, as you did in a thoughtful and thorough manner, our personal decision whether to vaccinate or not.

Alhamdulillah, my eldest four were vaccinated- though only with the vaccines we felt were necessary. The youngest four were not, with the exception of two of them recieving the polio vaccine when polio was found in Yemen, mash'Allaah. I don't take any special precautions with them besides teaching them basic hygiene, and stressing the importance of keeping on top of it with hand washing, etc. I do give them vitamins, mash'Allaah, but no other supplements beyond that.

I do think that when possible, one should consider having the tetanus vaccine if there is any chance of the child contracting it, as, mash'Allaah, the consequences are so quick and so dire, mash'Allaah.

A very good, balanced view on vaccines, again, in my opinion, is in Aviva Jill Romm's book, "Vaccinations: A Thoughtful Parent's Guide: How to Make Safe, Sensible Decisions about the Risks, Benefits, and Alternatives".

I actually took a class from her concerning the subject, I learned a lot, alhamdulillah.

 

umm sakinah al biruaniyah

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As salaam alaiki wa Rahmatullahi wa barakatuh I didnt vaccine my daughter, and i know other salafi akhawat whose did the same.   My husband make a scientific research about that as for us living in UK we dont really need the jabs for the moment, mash'Allah.   I dont know if I could write this link (http://www.healthymuslim.com/search.cfm) here, but the brothers wrote something about it and they provide links to other sources as well. Hope this help you, biitnihllah    
Umm Mujaahid

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Alhamdulillah, it is fine to post the link,; but I do want to reiterate what I said before- Sheikh Bin Baaz and others have said that in general, vaccinations are permissible- again, there may be individual situations where this is not the case, but this is the general ruling. Alhamdulillah, though, we as parents have to make the best decisions we can based on that knowledge as well as our own research into the matter.
umm sakinah al biruaniyah

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As Salaam alaiki,  Jazaki allahu khayran. Sahih ukhty and I read about Shaykh Ibn Baaz rahimahullah opinion on vaccine. Im considerer the tetanus vaccine and probably others if we moved to morocco fisabilillah.  wa baraka Allahu fiki Umm Mujaahid.
UmmAbdillaah

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Alhamdulillaah, the scholars are so knowledgeable!  I had no idea there was a fatwa on vaccination, but then again, of course there is. It's just another reminder of how the scholars are aware and well-informed about the every day issues of the rest of the Muslims.  May Allaah grant the ulamaah the highest reward, amin.  Jazaakillaahukhayran for the information.
Umm Mujaahid

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Yes, alhamdulillah...it shows the stupidity of the people who say that the scholars live in some sort of ivory tower and don't know about current affairs. May Allaah rectify the misconceptions of the misguided, Ameen.

I also should add that the rulings I have seen are general in nature- so one can't rule out that a certain vaccine may contain something that would render it impermissible. So in that case one should ask a scholar directly, insh'Allaah, concerning the specific instance. And Allaah knows best.

Asiyyah Bint Dawud

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AsSalaamuAlaikum WaRahmatullaahi WaBarakaatuh,
 
I'm curious about vaccinations too. I mean, I was vaccinated, and nobody researched about it before vaccinating me. Not only that, the specific vaccine that I got, (for chickenpox), was only recently produced, and basically the mad scientists needed a few babies to test it out on. Kulli shay fi Yadih: I'm fine alhamdulillaah. I'm prone to D+'s on my math tests, but that's normal, right? 
I appreciate the idea of trying to remain 100% natural, I can imagine the precautions can vary depending upon the situation and or region. My sister has not vaccinated her children. They do...all the things children do, i guess, in terms of exploring body, and environment (grin). But I don't notice her hair sticking up on end---over that at least. Allaah'a'lam. I would love to read what the ulamaa' have mentioned concerning this inshaaAllaah.
 
Wa Billaahi Tawfeeq!
Umm Mujaahid

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The chicken pox vaccination really bothered me, simply because the disease does not, in general, have any longterm health effects except in very very rare cases. But like you said, you suffered no ill effects from it (well, okay, a D or two, but I'm not entirely sure that was due to the vaccination- more like the ickiness of math for some of us)...and to be honest, very few children DO suffer from the vaccinations themselves. Once we know that in general they are permitted, then we just have to do our best and make our own decisions. In Damaaj, the children all got the chicken pox (while I had typhoid!) and four of us (me included) got the mumps. No long term problems, just short term misery (SMILE). And Allaah knows best.

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